Post by Enoch on Feb 26, 2010 16:49:48 GMT 3
There's a reason Cooper was gone shortly after 9/11 and a new face took to the scene very quickly.
This is a collection of information regarding Alex Jones and his attempt to demonize the movement of people dedicated to uncovering the truth of government actions.
Please take the time to analyze ALL of this information properly.
While reading, keep in mind that Alex Jones' show is run on GCN, an affiliate of ABC/Disney, but more interesting than that is the owner of GCN is Ted Anderson, owner/CEO of Midas Resources, a blatant gold scam that is constantly being advertised on www.infowars.com
www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/corbin.html
PROOF: Alex Jones' Money-Grubbing Greed
by Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani
For weeks now we’ve been pointing-out that Alex Jones’ excessive greed and appetite for money is so pronounced that it has become the number one priority on his radio show and pay-per-view website. In fact, his hard-sell buy buy buy advertising is so incessant that it is patterned directly after the government’s mind-control psychic-driving exercises (and that should erect red-flags for everyone).
Now we have first-hand, verifiable proof of how all-encompassing this drive for money is with Alex Jones and his wife Violet. What follows is an appalling tale of a man and wife who epitomize the biblical adage, “The love of money is the root of all evil.”
For three days in October, 2003, radio talk-show host Michael Corbin (whose program, A Closer Look, was carried at the time by GCN) appeared as a guest-host for Alex Jones. In case you don’t know, Jones’ show lasts three hours each day, so right off the bat there’s nine total hours. But the total amount of time that Corbin sacrificed was much greater.
Here’s what we mean. Even though our WING TV broadcasts are only about 25 minutes long each day, the total time it takes to get this show online is about five hours! Likewise, try to imagine how much time Michael Corbin had to spend preparing for these shows (i.e. news updates, booking guests, technical issues, etc). So, this original nine-hour time investment became more like 15-18 hours!
In addition, Michael Corbin received NO PAY for his guest-host appearances, and did it instead as a professional courtesy.
With this in mind, guess what gratitude he received for his efforts. Corbin told us during his June 8, 2005 appearance on WING TV (see transcript below) that during the third hour of his final day as guest host, he received a phone call from Violet Jones (Alex’s wife).
And what did she say to Corbin? Did she thank him for sacrificing 15-18 hours of his life – without pay – to host Alex’s show? No, Violet Jones chastised him because … get this … Alex’s video sales had fallen because he wasn’t pushing them hard enough!
Can you believe for even one second this woman’s audacity and ingratitude? What did she want Michael Corbin to do – turn each three-hour show into one big, long extended infomercial for Alex's products --- just like her husband? Then, when Corbin left a message for Jones voicing his displeasure, guess what happened? Alex didn’t return his call, nor did he even thank him! Corbin’s a professional broadcaster who was doing Jones a favor, and here’s what he gets --- yelled at by Alex’s wife because he wouldn’t be a snake-oil salesman for his videos, and then not even a thank you courtesy call from Jones.
You can read the entire transcript below, but before doing so we have one last thing to say: when it comes to low-lifes, there aren’t many people who are lower than the money-grubbing couple of Alex and Violet Jones --- you two should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves.
TRANSCRIPT: WING TV -- June 8, 2005
Lisa Guliani: You used to fill-in for Alex Jones. You did it a couple of times on his shows, correct?
Michael Corbin: Yes.
Lisa Guliani: Okay. Tell us a little bit about how that went for you and what happened afterward with Alex's wife - what she said to you.
Michael Corbin: Well, I used to be on the Genesis Communications Network and I was asked in October 2003 to fill in for him for three days, which I did. I got no pay for it, it was more a professional courtesy. And at the end of the third day, the last hour, Alex's wife chastised me because the video sales had dropped and she was upset because the sales had dropped. She didn't feel that I had pushed the videos hard enough. I was kind of disappointed because I did not get a "thank you" for filling in for Alex during that time.
Lisa Guliani: Really.
Victor Thorn: Not only didn't you get a "thank you," you got chastised.
Michael Corbin: Right.
Victor Thorn: You know, we've brought this up on our show before, and we've said that there's nothing wrong with selling products and making the public aware of them, but we said that on this show (Alex's), it's like psychic driving where they just pound it into your head.
Lisa Guliani: And you know what, Michael? His show is really long - for somebody to take that many hours out of their day to do a courtesy for someone else...
Victor Thorn: To get yelled at...
Lisa Guliani: Yeah.
Michael Corbin: Well, like I said - I was very disappointed in that, and again, I called Alex and didn't get a return phone call from him. I didn't get a "thank you" from him, and it was like I was disappointed because of what happened with that. But you know; the thing is that when I was on that network, I got a lot of e-mails and a lot of response from people when I did the fill-in for him. Of course, some people complained about his abrasive way of delivering his message, but you know, my response was always: that's Alex, that's his schtick.
Lisa Guliani: That's everybody's response (laughs).
Michael Corbin: We're supposed to be working for the same thing here.
Victor Thorn: But it seems like the money takes much more precedence on that show than on any other show we've ever heard on the Internet or in the alternative media. It just seems to be right at the forefront.
Michael Corbin: Well, I'm sure you guys are aware of it too in your venture and mine; you know we have to make money to try and keep the program going.
Lisa Guliani: Right.
Michael Corbin: Because all of us are not in the mainstream, and of course we can't get an AT&T or somebody like that.
Victor Thorn: Well, none of us are retiring tomorrow, that's for sure.
Michael Corbin: Exactly. You know, I think the thing is that we find working in the alternative media - we're not the favored sons and daughters of the country when it comes to the mainstream population and how they perceive us. My thing has always been: you struggle with this, and I'm happy to struggle. I've got a firm commitment with myself that I would never get involved in anything that would compromise the truth.
Victor & Lisa: Right! Good for you!
Michael Corbin: That's why it is so important, and even if we're struggling, which we all are, we are still somewhat effective in getting our message out.
Lisa Guliani: Let me ask you this, too. You don't work for GCN anymore, correct?
Michael Corbin: I never worked for them. My program has always been owned by me.
Lisa Guliani: Okay, I mean you don't do a show for them.
Michael Corbin: They were a distributor of my program.
Lisa Guliani: Okay.
Michael Corbin: But I'm not with them anymore, no.
Lisa Guliani: What's going on with your archives?
Michael Corbin: I'm sorry?
Lisa Guliani: Your GCN archives?
Michael Corbin: Oh yeah. Here's the deal. GCN was never allowed or authorized to sell archives of my show, A Closer Look. I discovered about four months ago, I got an e-mail from a listener who told me they had been listening to an archive from the month of July last year, and they had some questions. They indicated to me they had purchased a DVD from GCN for an entire month of my shows.
Lisa Guliani: What are they selling them for, Michael?
Michael Corbin: The guy told me that they were selling them - I think he said $30 or $40. I don't have the exact amount.
Victor Thorn: How much money did you make off of that?
Michael Corbin: Nothing. Now see, this is why I'm very disappointed in GCN and their behavior because even after I'm gone from the network, they're still making money off of my archives.
Lisa Guliani: So, they've been doing this how many months now?
Michael Corbin: I don't know because I turned this over to my attorney. He is dealing with them. He's sending them a cease-and-desist letter and demanding an accounting of everything they have sold of A Closer Look. The thing is, I find this very, very unprofessional; and it's wrong. I mean, anybody would know that they don't own my show. So they do not own the archives.
Victor Thorn: It sounds completely unethical.
Lisa Guliani: And illegal.
Michael Corbin: It shows what kind of mentality they have if they go cavalierly about selling the archives and not even reporting it to me.
Victor Thorn: Michael, that's what we brought up yesterday. We said, do you think that the mainstream media became this cesspool overnight? Well, it didn't. There were a lot of good people that turned their heads and didn't do anything as we went into this sewer; and we're trying to tell people that if we want to lose the alternative media, if we want it to become the same cesspool, than all we have to do is turn our heads and not say anything either.
Lisa Guliani: Right.
Michael Corbin: Absolutely.
Victor Thorn: It's so important because we don't HAVE anything else. If we lose this alternative media, there IS nothing else.
Michael Corbin: Victor, you're absolutely right. First of all, if we ever hope to succeed at getting the message out and gaining an audience, we have to have our integrity, we have to tell the truth, and we can't act like the people in the mainstream media.
Lisa Guliani: Thank you! Thank you!
Victor Thorn: We want everybody out there watching this show right now to give this guy a standing ovation because this is the kind of attitude we need. Michael, we wish we could keep you here for the next three days.
Lisa Guliani: Yeah, forever.
Victor Thorn: We just want to thank you. Again, everybody go out there to For a Closer Look. Its KHNC 1360 AM. The host is Michael Corbin, and this guy is FANTASTIC.
Lisa Guliani: Our hats are off to you, Michael. We love you.
Michael Corbin: Well, I tell you, same here to you guys because again, what you guys are doing is wonderful, and it's valuable, and it is very needed.
www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html
The Alex Jones Affair
A Christian Patriot Family Betrayed
When one remembers that messy business in Waco involving the Branch Davidians, it's not difficult to think that Texas seems to be particularly in the grip of the Antichrist spirit. At this writing, another family there is also under siege. John Joseph Gray and his wife and kids have been in a stand-off with the authorities since January, 2000. His daughter and grandchildren were being sought for a custody battle as well. As in the Jane Davila case (see Christian Media Volume VI #1), this is simply the Beast encroaching into constitutionally guaranteed rights that are reserved to the individual.
As a patriotic Christian man, John Gray has simply declared enough is enough and has refused to cooperate any further with the Beast system. The conflict stems from yet another attempt by the government to steal the children, because the government thinks they make better parents than children's own parents. This is particularly true for Christians, patriots, home-schoolers, and anyone else that stands up for their God given rights.
This is the shape of things to come. Because the Texas authorities are still smarting from the extensive criticism they received during the Waco murders, in addition to the recent election of Texas favorite son George Bush Jr, thus far the Beast has not moved to take the Grays by force. However, they will most likely make a violent move against them at some point as government consistently tries to give the public the impression that 'resistance is futile.'
What makes the Gray case particularly interesting is how the Patriot community has been deceived concerning what has really occurred there in Trinidad, Texas. The Genesis Communications Network, a so-called "patriot" network, and their premier host Alex Jones, have now been implicated in the betrayal of the Gray family.
In addition to his visibility as a Shortwave/Satellite radio host on the Genesis Communications Network, Alex Jones is best known for his investigative videos that seek to expose various New World Order practices. Alex Jones' broadcast on Genesis is considered the flagship program of the network. Furthermore, Alex Jones is widely seen as one of the top patriot leaders in the American political underground. Likewise, Genesis (also called GCN) enjoys the leadership role in so-called "patriot" broadcasting.
After the Gray siege began, Alex Jones and an associate named Mike Hansen went to the Gray property and asked John Gray if they could videotape an interview. John Gray agreed under one proviso: the tape footage was to be used for a documentary that could only be viewed after the siege was concluded. Alex Jones agreed to these conditions.
It seems that after Jones shot the video he wanted, including footage from within the premises showing crucial defensive locations from within the Gray residence, Alex Jones turned around and sold the video tape to a television network to be aired on the 20/20 news magazine program! Furthermore, it has now been established that Ted Anderson, the head of the Genesis Communications Network, has participated in a cover-up to keep the public from learning the truth about the treachery of his top host!
This incredible betrayal is very similar to that of Judas with his famous kiss. Both betrayals involved monetary compensation for the treachery. In the case of John Gray, the Alex Jones betrayal has placed the lives of the entire Gray household in jeopardy. Remember, the last time the authorities moved against Christians in Texas in a siege situation, they murdered everyone there � including the children.
Because the Gray's revealed significant logistical information to Alex Jones on camera, that information is now in the hands of the Texas authorities because of the unwanted television broadcast.
John Gray sought to get these facts out to the public. Based on his contacts with Genesis, it quickly became clear that Genesis was seeking to cover up the matter. Thinking that Genesis was unaware of the type of treachery Alex Jones had committed, Gray attempted to inform the radio network of what had happened. After several attempts of this nature, John Gray concluded that Ted Anderson, the head of Genesis, directly censored one of his own hosts (John Stadtmiller) that was attempting to tell the Gray story on the air. At that point, Gray was under the impression that Stadtmiller was interested in airing the truth, but he was being censored by Anderson. This was only partially true.
After John Gray realized he had been betrayed by both Alex Jones and the Genesis Network, he wrote a letter to Christian Media's James Lloyd. We have reproduced that letter in its entirety (see John Gray Letter attached to this work).
When I received the letter from John and Alicia Gray, I had already had several interactions with the Genesis people and had become convinced that the organization was completely corrupt and unscrupulous.
It should be noted at this juncture that Alex Jones represents what is usually called 'the franchise' at Genesis. His program is the number one show on the network. Indeed, the entire business plan at GCN has been focused on furthering the listenership of Alex Jones through affiliate AM and FM stations. It's clear GCN has sought to make Alex Jones the next Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh.
The fact that radio figures like Savage (and even the CFR affiliated fraud Rush Limbaugh) have become so popular is because the country has experienced a shift in consensus to a hipper Republican right from the previous liberal left. Thus, GCN clearly hopes to ride that political swing to riches with their golden boy Alex Jones.
Such media 'franchises' are worth millions of dollars - thus any public scrutiny that would expose Alex Jones as a cheap entertainer posing as a patriot would be disastrous for the large investment that Genesis has made in the Austin based broadcaster.
After the Christian Media newspaper printed the story of Alex Jones' betrayal of a patriot Christian family to the mainstream television media, I received an angry phone call from John Stadtmiller. Although John Gray seems to be under the impression that Stadtmiller would have told the truth on the air concerning Alex Jones had it not been for Anderson's censorship, it is clear that John Stadtmiller's sympathies are with Alex Jones.
The veteran "patriot" radio host indicated he would tell me the "truth" of the matter � a version of the "truth" that would presumably discredit John Gray and exonerate Alex Jones' from his role as Judas to John Gray's version of Jesus in the affair. However, Stadtmiller said he would only speak to me concerning the Alex Jones affair "off the record."
This is precisely the sort of back-room tactic that brought Amerika to the desperate straits the country is currently experiencing. Indeed, if the US had a powerful media that was independent of the giant multi-national corporate tentacles of commerce, we would at least have a measure of balance in our present precarious political quagmire. A media 'watchdog' is a good thing as evil is frequently afraid to misbehave for fear of exposure. Thus, the 'smoke-filled room' deals that are made under conditions of secrecy are the antithesis of a fair and balanced media.
It should also be stated that there is probably at least one inaccuracy in the John Gray letter (reproduced at the end of this essay). For example, there are indications the amount of money received by Alex Jones for the videotape he sold of the Gray siege defenses is likely overstated. John Gray can hardly be faulted if this figure is too high (having some familiarity with television, it sounds high to me for file clips purchased on the open market), as the flow of information to him has been severely hampered by the fact that he is barricaded away without regular contact with the outside world. And that's just the point.
On the one side, the Gray family is in a siege position with arrest warrants issued if they come out of their defensive posture. On the other side, Alex Jones and Genesis refuse to comment in any way concerning the matter. Thus, a thorough examination of what really happened is being thwarted to this very day. Because the Grays are simply unable to provide more detail due to their circumstances, and Genesis is after all, a media organization that obviously wants no media attention to the matter, we can't help but conclude that Genesis is seeking to cover-up the truth of the Alex Jones affair.
When John Stadtmiller called me after the story was printed in the Christian Media newspaper and said he would only speak off the record, I was faced with a choice. Because we are sincerely trying to behave in a New Testament fashion, and Jesus Christ has instructed me to "Let your yeas be yeas, and your nays be nays," I refused to speak off the record with John Stadtmiller. He angrily screamed at me and hung up the phone. I'm told by others this is how John concludes a significant number of his telephone conversations.
Of course, one might theorize that John Stadtmiller wanted to 'dish the dirt' about Alex Jones and Genesis without jeopardizing his own position; but then John would have to explain why, as a professing Christian, he continues to maintain such close ties with such a sleazy bunch. After all, the Bible is very clear about being "unequally yoked" with evil.
Or, it could be that John wanted to slander John Gray in some fashion in an effort to whitewash the simple fact that Alex Jones betrayed a patriot Christian family for money. The fact that Stadtmiller has since drawn considerably closer to Alex Jones � even regularly co-hosting programs with him on Genesis � leads me to believe that this phone call was just another effort at damage control, and that the entire organization is one large commercial mouse-trap simply masquerading as patriots in a transparent effort at empire building. Indeed, in virtually every exposure I've had with Alex Jones, the Genesis management, and the network's hosts, I've had the impression that GCN is just a loose coalition of liars that posture as patriots so the public will support their programs
And apparently the listeners are considered fair game. For instance, at least one GCN listener wrote to me stating that GCN (which is backed by a gold and silver brokerage and the Berkey water filter people) had offered a precious metal coin as a premium to anyone that made a specific donation to another "paytriot" broadcaster named Pastor Butch Paugh.
This listener sent in funds, but Ted Anderson (who heads Midas Resources as well as Genesis) refused to honor his own offer! There are several other incidents of this nature that indicate John Gray's expectation that Alex Jones and GCN are actually interested in the truth is unrealistic.
Christian Media has repeatedly sought to expose the treachery at the Genesis Communications Network for several years now. They stole their original equipment from another patriot network named Republic Radio. Fraudulently claiming they had purchased the network, the management of Genesis literally backed up a U-Haul, and loaded up the broadcasting equipment while the rightful owner was out of town!
The victim of this theft was Loris Thompkins, then owner of the now defunct Republic Radio Network. Loris then formed the Heritage Network and promptly sued Genesis for their theft of her assets. In an interesting side note, although the Genesis Network was defended by a high-priced law firm, Loris was helped by certain patriot figures conversant in law as she sued Genesis on a pro-se basis representing herself.
This was because the stolen network represented her entire net worth and she was virtually penniless after being fleeced by Genesis. Ted "Goldfinger" Anderson (the key man at Genesis and gold broker Midas Resources), on the other hand, is said to be a millionaire.
In case anyone is interested, Loris Thompkins has now been proven to be the wronged party. On February 22, 2001, Genesis settled with Loris Thompkins for a significant sum of money. This is the equivalent of a tacit admission of guilt. Incidentally, a complete history of the Genesis Communications Network, including its unsavory origin through theft and deceit, is covered in the book Shortwave Wars (see the catalog at Christianmedianetwork.com). Also, Loris Thompkins periodically addresses the subject on radio as she now broadcasts on The Christian Media Network with a program called To Tell The Truth.
Over the last couple of years, John and Alicia Gray have sent out several handwritten letters updating their status. They have steadfastly stuck by their charges that Alex Jones sold them out to the authorities. Conversely, Alex Jones has steadfastly refused to publicly account for his role in the matter.
Genesis, and every host that has any knowledge of the matter, has uniformly refused to address the issue in any public forum. All callers to any of the various GCN programs that even hint of mentioning the matter are immediately taken off the air and hung up on. The Genesis tactic has been to completely bury the story, and refuse to allow any scrutiny of Alex Jones.
At this point, it should be clear to all informed parties that the trust which has been placed in the Genesis network in general, and Alex Jones in particular, is misplaced. To put it another way, would you want to be in a foxhole with someone who would sell you out for money?
-- James Lloyd
www.alexjonesmachine.com
The Pot Calling the Kettle Black?
Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Jeff Rense & GCN - March/April 2009
No one has to tell you, these are trying times, (are you sick of those two words yet?) we can see it all around us. We are frustrated, we are afraid, we are unsure about the future. Heck, we're even unsure about the present. We don't know who we can trust, we are angry, hurt and tired from being lied to and manipulated. Sometimes the stress of it all can take its toll.
Those who go deeper than what is presented to the "main stream" know this even more acutely than the rest of the "sheeple." If one is not a sheeple, it can be very difficult to find people of like mind when even having a Ron Paul bumper sticker on one's car marks one as a possible terrorist. (BTW, I had 3 on my car, one on my front door and a front yard sign, and even helped paint a whole HOUSE!, so there!, :-P nyah) Which brings me to the point of this piece.
Most, if not all, of you realize the threats to Freedom of Speech these days. The "Hate Bill" going through Congress being the most current glaring example. The right to speak one's opinion is something that can not be given only to a select group of people or individuals. It goes across the board, or it doesn't go at all. If everyone does not have the same right to free thought and opinion, the word "free" can not be applied to the situation.
The ever bashed so-called Main Stream Media is a far cry from the journalism of the past. The MSM deserves pretty much all of the bashing it gets; its offenses are blatant and arrogant. After working in independent media for over a decade, I have learned to expect such behavior and antics from the MSM. They're dogs.
During the months of March and April 2009, I unfortunately realized that the same kind of attitude can be found in the growing independent media world, as well. What I heard, learned, and observed over the months of March and April, and beyond; has saddened and even sickened me at times. Because of this I feel it needs to be noted that what happened with Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Jeff Rense and GCN smacks of the same kind of manipulative, egotistic and half-truth machinations that might be expected at the level of FOX News. That's a pretty rough statement considering the people we're talking about here are supposed to be about free speech and the rights and sovereignty of the individual.
They claim to be out there supporting the "Patriots", their audiences are growing. They should be supporting each other, as well. Isn't everyone supposed to be on the same side here? Heck y'all go on each other's shows, or you used to. The same guests bounce around the shows, until recently. That's how it should be. Instead, all hell broke loose at GCN resulting in the forced removal of Rense from the GCN network and everyone accusing everybody else of being "agents" and "disruptors." It was nauseating to observe. It still is.
As I watched the situation develop, I could hardly believe my eyes and ears. What went down was the kind of stuff we are all supposed to be fighting AGAINST. To see this level of behind the scenes drama and the resulting disruption to the programs and hosts and listeners involved made me question whether it is possible for a true journalist to even survive on this planet anymore.
I guess we'll find out after this, eh?
I will pre-empt here and say no, Alex, and Ted, this is NOT part of "an obvious campaign to try to get the patriot movement to turn on itself" by writing this. I am not "attacking" anyone or trying to shut anyone up. I am telling the truth about how I watched the movement turn on itself, all by itself, with YOUR effort, and support. I am not trying to "silence" or "destroy" anyone. I am holding people accountable for their actions.
I want you to walk your talk, damn it, all of you.
If you say that looking at one's "fruits" is a measure of a man, I'm here to tell you, I see some major spoilage going on. If you expect people to listen to you with trust and respect, you have to behave in a manner that is worthy of those things; especially if you are going to take their money.
None of you, not a one, is as big or important as you seem to think you are. You are just like the rest of us, fighting in our own ways.
These are turning out to be the hardest pages I have ever done. I am so angry and frustrated. Not because I am afraid of becoming a "target" or afraid that I am going to be sued, but because I am so fed up with all the crap. I'm not afraid of any of this stuff. These are just people, just like you. Because they are on the radio and/or TV does not change that, it does not give them super powers, they are not magic.
So bear with me; or don't, and go click on something else.
And YES, it is without a doubt loooooong and to comments about that, I say tough!
You can't sound-byte this stuff, and this one has hit real close to home for me, too, so I'm telling it the way I see it, on MY site.
It's called Freedom of Speech, look it up if you can't remember what it means anymore.
OK, let's get to it. It's going to be a very bumpy ride, let's just do our best to get to the other side, in one peace.
Let's continue...
Are YOU An Agent?
I'm going to go out on a limb here; pretty far out there on a very small thin branch, actually. Sometimes we have to, because we're fed up, and it's the right thing to do. Put yourself in my shoes as you read this. Would you be a little nervous? You betcha. (My site was already hacked once.)
Regardless, I am going out there with the truth as best as I can determine it to be with the information available to me. I am going out there with personal responsibility and courage; and I'm taking you with me. Let's hope we don't all fall down.
I try to walk my talk.
Alex Jones and Jeff Rense. You know the names; if you don't you can probably just leave now, because this won't interest you. (BTW, the majority of people in this country don't know who EITHER of them are. Test it, go stop 20 people out on the street, I'll bet you get NO ONE that knows who they are, unless you are in Austin, TX. Get some perspective.)
On the surface, it looks like they are both trying to fight the good fight. Heaven knows we need that. However, there seems to be a lot of buzz that there is more going on here than meets the eye, and since we can't get into either of their heads, we don't know what that could be. We can only look at what we see and hear and read about it and decide for ourselves, just like everything else.
I have done that, this is my opinion. I am entitled to my own opinion. This is MY site. I can post what I want on it. I back up what I post, so if you want to sue me over it, knock yourself out, you won't have a case, and you won't get any money, I'm always broke.
I don't care who agrees or disagrees. I know who I am, and what I believe, and how I got there. I will always be able to show you how I got there, too.
I'll even show you my birth certificate. That's way more than your President is willing to do for you.
By now, the story of Alex Jones and Jeff Rense has made the rounds. I will state here that I am a subscriber on both Rense Radio and Prison Planet.tv. At least as I'm typing this... that will change soon.
I listen to Alex most days at work for the last year and a half; until the last few weeks. I only listened sporadically before that. I have my own space, I don't hear start to finish stuff; I'm working and not always in the room. But, I hear enough to keep up.
I listen to Jeff most nights, if the guest is someone I want to hear, and I don't fall asleep. Or, I'll listen the next day at work, or some other archives.
That was my pattern anyway...until the last couple months.
I am going to throw in my two cents, because I was the person who got them together in the first place, and this whole thing that has transpired just breaks my heart on so many levels. I don't have the emails anymore to verify a date, but both of them remember. That's good enough for me.
A Little Background
Crap - We All Get It
I have been doing my work for over 12 years on the net. Until the issue regarding illegal atmospheric aerosol operations, commonly known by the catch-all word chemtrails; I just posted on my site, nothing of great importance, just things in which I was interested. Then, chemtrails came into my life.
Because I realized it was such an important issue, I began to be active in the investigating and reporting of it. Along with another person, I became one of the original founders/moderators of Chem Trail Tracking USA, the Yahoo group.
At the time, if one did a search for the word "chemtrails"; one only got 3/three results. Now, if you search Google for the word chemtrails - 1,290,000 results come back. I think that shows progress. Even though the programs are still officially denied, they remain active... just look up.
The reason I bring this up is because after about 3 months into the CTTUSA group activity, I began to get threats and insults and all kinds of ad hominem attacks. I have a "threat" file folder. It has hard copies of many of the things that have been thrown at me over the years.
A good example would be emails with pictures of cut off and mutilated human hands and arms that were sent to me with a warning that if I didn't stop my work, that was what was going to happen to me. As you can see, I still have both of my hands and arms, and I have no intention of stopping anytime soon.
Anyone working on any of these so called "conspiracy theory" issues gets talked smack to. Emails, postings on boards and blogs, websites, wherever. In the early days it got to me because I just wasn't used to having to read and deal with such vitrol and flat out cruel stuff. I'm a nice person, people don't usually talk to me in that manner. I tried to defend myself a few times, but it wasn't worth the effort. I don't need the distraction and the negative energy is not conducive to productivity.
It still goes on, I suppose, but I don't read it or pay attention to it. I can show you an example at the bottom of this article that was posted about me recently, a comment I guess because of the "letter" pages.
The post, of course, is filled with innaccuracies. Apparently, this person has not gotten over being banned for bad behavior almost 10 years ago. Looks like he hasn't learned much in 10 yrs. Some people are just like that, and they will not change. Sucks to be them.
Over the years I have gotten death threats, insults to myself and my family. I have had my bank account wiped out after writing an open letter to the Dept. of Homeland Security. I have had my phone lines messed with so bad the phone company couldn't find them. I have been called tons of names, my mental health has been questioned, and I have had accusations that I wear "jackboots" or that I am an "agent" (which just cracks up my next door neighbor).
I am not an agent, I am a 55 year old single mother of three, grandmother of four, that works at a grocery store. "Agent" is not on my resume, nor a part of my life in any way, unless you choose to call me an agent for peace. I will accept that title, because it is true.
If I have learned anything about activism on the net - I have learned that this crap just comes with the territory. It happens to more people than you know.
If you aren't getting death threats, insults, or being accused of being an agent, nobody's listening, apparently. I pretty much ignore them and don't talk about them.
I sure don't use them as excuses to behave badly.
I, as well as others with whom I work, actually use the level of harassment to guage the importance of the topic being discussed. It seems when we strike a chord, we're on the right track.
The louder the protest and negative reaction to our efforts, the greater the indicator that we have hit upon something of importance.
Doing what myself and others of like mind do, makes one open to such irritating and downright disgusting actions from others; usually hiding behind a nickname with no verifiable real person behind it.
And then of course, there's the nutty ones.
Like my grandfather used to say, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." Apparently, I live a lot of my life in the kitchen. I'm OK with that - that's where the food is.
I think I can stand the heat. I have so far. We'll see.
People react differently when in the kitchen. Some days are better than others. Lately, I have watched people in the kitchen with me behave very, very badly.
Let's get back to business. One entity at a time...we continue...
In The Beginning...Jeff Rense
To the best of my knowledge, neither Jeff Rense nor myself are "agents." I, of course, could be wrong; I don't know everything. To back myself up about what I do know, I am sharing my own personal experiences with these men and the issue at hand.
The picture you see above was taken and sent to Jeff during the program, the very first time Alex came on Jeff's show. It was sometime in 2003. I can't confirm the date, the archives don't go back that far, at present. As you can see, I was very excited about the collaboration. I have Jeff's book AIDS Exposed and my copy of 911 Descent into Tyranny and I was wearing the Tyranny Response Team shirt. I was very happy then, can you tell?
Now? Not so much. I am very unhappy about how it has all turned out lately, and with all the garbage I have been reading and hearing. There needs to be some clarification, for all of us. So here goes.
As I said, I was the one that hooked up Jeff Rense and Alex Jones.
There doesn't seem to be a good and accurate bio of Jeff out there. I found one here; but it is not right. Reading it I would do so with the note that if the ADL says you shouldn't read/listen/see something, you should probably read/listen/see it. Then, make up your own mind. One error in that bio that I can see right off the bat is the original show name was "The End of the Line", Sightings was second.
Since there appears to be a need for a bio, I contacted Jeff. He told me he and his brother, Rip have tried on more than one occasion to submit one on Wikipedia, but they keep getting removed. So, I told him if he sent me one, I'd post it, so he did, and I am. Here is an authorized bio of Jeff Rense.
"Jeff Rense is a renowned, highly-respected American broadcast journalist and host of the legendary Jeff Rense Program now in its 15th year and broadcast worldwide on the internet and also available on the Ku band satellite Galaxy 19. His program is syndicated over the Rense Radio Network (RenseRadio.com) which is also home to an enormous library of his archived programs.
Rense's radio program and phenomenally successful website, Rense.com, cover a vast subject and topic panorama including: in-depth geopolitical conspiracy research, Zionism and secret societies, our Constitutional rights and liberties, UFO sightings and reports, paranormal phenomena, emerging diseases and pandemic threats, GMO and toxic food, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, evidence of advanced ancient technology, political intrigue, energy technologies, and health and alternative medicine and a multitude of other important and often eclectic, controversial subjects. Many of those topics Alex Jones does not even address.
The Jeff Rense Program is completely unique and original in its content and style, and his guests and web site material are routinely picked up by other talk shows and sites which seek to reveal the truth to the world at large. Rense grew up in Santa Barbara and began his media career in television news, spending 12 years as an award-winning news anchor and news director with network affiliate stations in CA, NV, OR and WA. He walked away from tv news when he realized it was no longer journalism but simply entertainment and propaganda.
Rense began his radio program in 1994 when his The End Of The Line debuted on Santa Barbara's top talk station. A year later, he was signed to a 5 year contract by the Premiere Radio Networks and nationally-syndicated. Between his 24 hour Rense.com worldwide news service and his M-F 3-hour talk program, Rense has rightly been called 'An American Treasure' by top journalists and fans alike. He loves nature and the outdoors and is one of the world's leading authorities on the music and life of tenor Mario Lanza and he hosts an elaborate Lanza website, mariolanza.net. In 2007, Rense released 3 CDs of rare Lanza recordings which he painstakingly remastered and produced."
I first met Jeff Rense via email, the program/web site was Sightings. I sent him an email requesting his permission to link to a news story on his website. I had just started building my own website, I was a big newbie, very green on the net. Jeff wrote back, I wrote back, and that has continued since 1997 or so.
I have never worked FOR him, I have always worked WITH him.
I have been to his home, I have met his family. I can attest to his time spent on his site and program. I have seen him plant his trees. I even went to Wal-Mart with him. (Gasp!)
I know well of his passionate interest in anything Mario Lanza because I have also shared in that. Transcribing old movie magazine articles and looking for memorabilia is a LOT more fun for both of us than the things on which either of us spend most of our time these days, believe me. We don't do much of either of the fun things anymore like we used to. Although somehow Jeff managed to crank out 3/three more Mario CDs. The guy doesn't sleep much.
Anyway, I think I have a pretty good sense of what Jeff is about and how he goes about it. His professional news background, and his dedication to free speech and freedom of inquiry are the reasons that he has had such a large audience for so many years.
He has spent 15 years on the radio, always struggling for bandwidth, just like everyone else. He does his own work to fight TPTB and allows people to make up their own minds about what is going on around them. He gets his share of harassment, big time; but you don't hear him whining about it all the time. When necessary, he addresses the issue like in the case of WINGS.
It is a core group of Jeff, James Neff the webmaster extraordinaire, and a few others for technical purposes and administration that runs Rense.com/radio. Jeff lists their names at the bottom of his home page.
There is no staff of twenty, or something. No one is rolling in dough. There are no rented office spaces. Everyone works their butts off with little or no financial compensation. Not enough for the value of their efforts, that's for sure.
I adore the Neffs. James has incredible talent, works ungodly hours, and their family is great. My sons love them too.
Jeff covers a WIDE range of topics and a WIDE range of opinions. Anyone who says he is anti-semitic hasn't been listening and is obviously ill informed on the topic of Zionsim vs Judaism. His subjects are not just political intrigue, he is greatly concerned with health issues, as well. And of course, UFO's and other paranormal topics are presented, which is one of the things that makes Rense a good journalist. Free-flow of information, remember?
Rense respects people's intelligence enough to know that they can decide for themselves what is true, or not. He presents information. He states his own opinion on his own radio show.
JEFF doesn't believe everything that is reported on the site, that's not his job. Presenting the facts is his job. He posts links to stories he feels are important in the headlines column on his own site.
Over the years, many of those headlines and some stories have been submitted by me. I, for one, don't send him unverifiable crap. I have appreciated his venue and support his work. He is entitled to edit his own site and voice his own views on it, as are any of you in your own venues. As the old saying goes, "Take what works, and leave the rest."
People that complain about the stories on the site just don't get what real news is supposed to be about. I am sick and tired of hearing how some story that was merely linked to a story posted on another site was "posted on Rense's site." Bull! Check the link address! Unless the URL has "rense.com" in it, it's NOT on HIS site.
Next comes...Alex Jones
I heard of Alex Jones long before I met him. As I can best recall, the first time I heard of Alex was in connection to a story about the poisoned Treaty Oak in Austin, TX. I then checked some more and found that he was working on getting information out about the control factors around us that are threatening our freedom. I thought that was great. There is an Alex Jones approved bio here.
Although I was having fun at the time, when Alex got to the "Join me, and I will complete your training" part, I remember thinking to myself, "Huh? Does this guy realize Jeff's background? How many years he worked in network news before anything took place on the net?" I realized Alex was doing his "Star Wars" thing, but geez.
I certainly have never known Alex nearly as well as I know Jeff. I have never listened to Jones as frequently as Rense, the style differences and topic variety of the two programs being the main reasons. I also wasn't available to listen to Alex much except when I worked weekends, back then. The few times I tried to email Alex, after I met him, I didn't get a reply. I don't read or post on any related boards.
So...within a few months of checking out Alex, I started suggesting to Jeff that he have him on, and he finally did. He didn't just jump on it, but he eventually had him on when he needed to get a slot filed. The first show went well, you can hear it in the Rense archives, probably, when the 2003 archives get in there.
Jeff then began to have Alex on as a monthly guest, at least; NOT just somebody he contacted a few times for interviews. Alex had his own regular day and week that he appeared on Rense. It was Mondays for a while, if I recall correctly, and Thursdays for a while. The shows are in the Rense archives. It is easy enough to verify that this statement is true.
Alex, in your on-air statement regarding this situation (I suppose this will get ME sued now) between you and Jeff, you described your relationship as "a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times" I suppose that is technically true, but an obvious understatement. You also said that Jeff "asked to do a show on Genesis, I said 'Fine'." That can not be true Alex, I know Ted Anderson called Jeff about him being on GCN. In fact, Jeff did not have Alex on as a guest until AFTER Jeff was already broadcasting on Genesis. Jeff never asked to be on the GCN network, he was approached by Ted Anderson and they made an agreement. Is Alex confused over who runs GCN?
If anything, Alex's appearances on Rense gave Jones exposure to a larger audience that would not have heard of him otherwise. It wasn't like Jeff called Alex a bunch asking him to be on...he developed into a regular guest, for all intents and purposes. This means Rense had confidence in Alex's information and dependability, at the time..
Although I was having fun at the time, when Alex got to the "Join me, and I will complete your training" part, I remember thinking to myself, "Huh? Does this guy realize Jeff's background? How many years he worked in network news before anything took place on the net?" I realized Alex was doing his "Star Wars" thing, but geez.
I certainly have never known Alex nearly as well as I know Jeff. I have never listened to Jones as frequently as Rense, the style differences and topic variety of the two programs being the main reasons. I also wasn't available to listen to Alex much except when I worked weekends, back then. The few times I tried to email Alex, after I met him, I didn't get a reply. I don't read or post on any related boards.
So...within a few months of checking out Alex, I started suggesting to Jeff that he have him on, and he finally did. He didn't just jump on it, but he eventually had him on when he needed to get a slot filed. The first show went well, you can hear it in the Rense archives, probably, when the 2003 archives get in there.
Jeff then began to have Alex on as a monthly guest, at least; NOT just somebody he contacted a few times for interviews. Alex had his own regular day and week that he appeared on Rense. It was Mondays for a while, if I recall correctly, and Thursdays for a while. The shows are in the Rense archives. It is easy enough to verify that this statement is true.
Alex, in your on-air statement regarding this situation (I suppose this will get ME sued now) between you and Jeff, you described your relationship as "a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times" I suppose that is technically true, but an obvious understatement. You also said that Jeff "asked to do a show on Genesis, I said 'Fine'." That can not be true Alex, I know Ted Anderson called Jeff about him being on GCN. In fact, Jeff did not have Alex on as a guest until AFTER Jeff was already broadcasting on Genesis. Jeff never asked to be on the GCN network, he was approached by Ted Anderson and they made an agreement. Is Alex confused over who runs GCN?
If anything, Alex's appearances on Rense gave Jones exposure to a larger audience that would not have heard of him otherwise. It wasn't like Jeff called Alex a bunch asking him to be on...he developed into a regular guest, for all intents and purposes. This means Rense had confidence in Alex's information and dependability, at the time..
In 2007, I noticed that Alex's appearances were more sporadic, and a few times he was listed as a guest; but then there was no Alex when the show started. I didn't think much about it, at the time. I didn't ask Jeff about it. Alex was gaining in popularity, he had all those videos coming out and such, I figured he was busy doing his own thing.
I found out later that Alex had more than once been a no-call no-show, as we say at work when we miss a shift. We get "written up" for doing that.
Alex's show and site and the way he does things is vastly different from Rense. Jeff's show is more guest and content focused. He interviews people, lets them state their information and opinion, and throws in his own when he has something to contribute. He doesn't take call-ins, hardly ever. It's not a "talk-show" in that respect. He doesn't get all shouty and over emotional. He was a TV news anchor for over a decade before he started the radio gig. You don't generally see/hear newscasters present the news like a televangelist. I have never really heard him raise his voice on the show, on the telephone, or in person; no matter what was happening at the moment. There was one exception, he did shout at his bird to be quiet once. He has most definitely typed in all caps to me, on more than one occasion. When he is very angry, his magnificent vocabulary makes up for any unneccesary increase in volume. He doesn't shout and cuss and such, in my experience. That's just not the kind of guy he is. He is generally a gentleman. I think most of his guests and listeners would agree with that statement.
Don't get me wrong, we have had our moments over the years. I know he's irritated if he calls me "Missy". And there was the one time about 5 or 6 years ago when we got in a fight and didn't speak to each other for something like 8-10 months. But we got over it. I don't even remember what it was about any more.
That is how Jeff usually deals with things. If he finds sufficient reason to end a relationship, the person will be notified of his position - and then no contact will come after that. Out of sight, out of mind. HE attempted to do that regarding the Jones 'situation' with his statement. Jeff then directs his attention to other things.
He is more of a pessimist than I am, he would say realist. We can agree to disagree without bloodshed, most of the time.
Although he deals with some very frightening issues, no doubt (we are in very frightening times); his program is not overall fear based, IMO. Brad Steiger wouldn't be on otherwise. (shrug)
Alex seems to have gotten more and more excitable over the years. It's getting harder and harder to listen to his "trasmissions". Alex gets way more emotional than Rense. Jones is very theatrical. The big booming voice stuff, the Star Wars influences. The bull horn thing, heavily sensationalized product. Like when Will Thomas coined "Deep Sky" for the air traffic controller in the Boston area. We don't need to sensationalize this stuff folks, it's sensational all on it's own.
As Alex got louder, I started listening less. It feels like watching Jerry Springer, all the negativity and shouting and name calling. I can't refer many of my neighbors to listen to Alex because his hystrionics would be so off putting to them, they would not be open to anything further I would suggest they examine. It is not necessary to whip people into a frenzy by shouting, nor is it necessary to call people who disagree "morons" and the like. That's Major Asshole behavior, in my opinion.
I have done enough live radio to know how bad it sucks when a guest doesn't show up, or there are technical difficulties in the broadcast. The most I have ever been stiffed in that respect was 30 minutes and that was hell. I can't imagine having to deal with the "loss" of hours and having to pull up something dated to put on in place of the original content. When one is doing live radio and the planned content doesn't happen, it is VERY hard to fill in that time and make it work, sometimes even if it's just a few minutes. These actions by Alex came to a head in November of 2007, and Alex was never a guest on Rense after that. Jeff was angry, I am sure, I would be too if it had happened to me.
This is a collection of information regarding Alex Jones and his attempt to demonize the movement of people dedicated to uncovering the truth of government actions.
Please take the time to analyze ALL of this information properly.
While reading, keep in mind that Alex Jones' show is run on GCN, an affiliate of ABC/Disney, but more interesting than that is the owner of GCN is Ted Anderson, owner/CEO of Midas Resources, a blatant gold scam that is constantly being advertised on www.infowars.com
www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/corbin.html
PROOF: Alex Jones' Money-Grubbing Greed
by Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani
For weeks now we’ve been pointing-out that Alex Jones’ excessive greed and appetite for money is so pronounced that it has become the number one priority on his radio show and pay-per-view website. In fact, his hard-sell buy buy buy advertising is so incessant that it is patterned directly after the government’s mind-control psychic-driving exercises (and that should erect red-flags for everyone).
Now we have first-hand, verifiable proof of how all-encompassing this drive for money is with Alex Jones and his wife Violet. What follows is an appalling tale of a man and wife who epitomize the biblical adage, “The love of money is the root of all evil.”
For three days in October, 2003, radio talk-show host Michael Corbin (whose program, A Closer Look, was carried at the time by GCN) appeared as a guest-host for Alex Jones. In case you don’t know, Jones’ show lasts three hours each day, so right off the bat there’s nine total hours. But the total amount of time that Corbin sacrificed was much greater.
Here’s what we mean. Even though our WING TV broadcasts are only about 25 minutes long each day, the total time it takes to get this show online is about five hours! Likewise, try to imagine how much time Michael Corbin had to spend preparing for these shows (i.e. news updates, booking guests, technical issues, etc). So, this original nine-hour time investment became more like 15-18 hours!
In addition, Michael Corbin received NO PAY for his guest-host appearances, and did it instead as a professional courtesy.
With this in mind, guess what gratitude he received for his efforts. Corbin told us during his June 8, 2005 appearance on WING TV (see transcript below) that during the third hour of his final day as guest host, he received a phone call from Violet Jones (Alex’s wife).
And what did she say to Corbin? Did she thank him for sacrificing 15-18 hours of his life – without pay – to host Alex’s show? No, Violet Jones chastised him because … get this … Alex’s video sales had fallen because he wasn’t pushing them hard enough!
Can you believe for even one second this woman’s audacity and ingratitude? What did she want Michael Corbin to do – turn each three-hour show into one big, long extended infomercial for Alex's products --- just like her husband? Then, when Corbin left a message for Jones voicing his displeasure, guess what happened? Alex didn’t return his call, nor did he even thank him! Corbin’s a professional broadcaster who was doing Jones a favor, and here’s what he gets --- yelled at by Alex’s wife because he wouldn’t be a snake-oil salesman for his videos, and then not even a thank you courtesy call from Jones.
You can read the entire transcript below, but before doing so we have one last thing to say: when it comes to low-lifes, there aren’t many people who are lower than the money-grubbing couple of Alex and Violet Jones --- you two should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves.
TRANSCRIPT: WING TV -- June 8, 2005
Lisa Guliani: You used to fill-in for Alex Jones. You did it a couple of times on his shows, correct?
Michael Corbin: Yes.
Lisa Guliani: Okay. Tell us a little bit about how that went for you and what happened afterward with Alex's wife - what she said to you.
Michael Corbin: Well, I used to be on the Genesis Communications Network and I was asked in October 2003 to fill in for him for three days, which I did. I got no pay for it, it was more a professional courtesy. And at the end of the third day, the last hour, Alex's wife chastised me because the video sales had dropped and she was upset because the sales had dropped. She didn't feel that I had pushed the videos hard enough. I was kind of disappointed because I did not get a "thank you" for filling in for Alex during that time.
Lisa Guliani: Really.
Victor Thorn: Not only didn't you get a "thank you," you got chastised.
Michael Corbin: Right.
Victor Thorn: You know, we've brought this up on our show before, and we've said that there's nothing wrong with selling products and making the public aware of them, but we said that on this show (Alex's), it's like psychic driving where they just pound it into your head.
Lisa Guliani: And you know what, Michael? His show is really long - for somebody to take that many hours out of their day to do a courtesy for someone else...
Victor Thorn: To get yelled at...
Lisa Guliani: Yeah.
Michael Corbin: Well, like I said - I was very disappointed in that, and again, I called Alex and didn't get a return phone call from him. I didn't get a "thank you" from him, and it was like I was disappointed because of what happened with that. But you know; the thing is that when I was on that network, I got a lot of e-mails and a lot of response from people when I did the fill-in for him. Of course, some people complained about his abrasive way of delivering his message, but you know, my response was always: that's Alex, that's his schtick.
Lisa Guliani: That's everybody's response (laughs).
Michael Corbin: We're supposed to be working for the same thing here.
Victor Thorn: But it seems like the money takes much more precedence on that show than on any other show we've ever heard on the Internet or in the alternative media. It just seems to be right at the forefront.
Michael Corbin: Well, I'm sure you guys are aware of it too in your venture and mine; you know we have to make money to try and keep the program going.
Lisa Guliani: Right.
Michael Corbin: Because all of us are not in the mainstream, and of course we can't get an AT&T or somebody like that.
Victor Thorn: Well, none of us are retiring tomorrow, that's for sure.
Michael Corbin: Exactly. You know, I think the thing is that we find working in the alternative media - we're not the favored sons and daughters of the country when it comes to the mainstream population and how they perceive us. My thing has always been: you struggle with this, and I'm happy to struggle. I've got a firm commitment with myself that I would never get involved in anything that would compromise the truth.
Victor & Lisa: Right! Good for you!
Michael Corbin: That's why it is so important, and even if we're struggling, which we all are, we are still somewhat effective in getting our message out.
Lisa Guliani: Let me ask you this, too. You don't work for GCN anymore, correct?
Michael Corbin: I never worked for them. My program has always been owned by me.
Lisa Guliani: Okay, I mean you don't do a show for them.
Michael Corbin: They were a distributor of my program.
Lisa Guliani: Okay.
Michael Corbin: But I'm not with them anymore, no.
Lisa Guliani: What's going on with your archives?
Michael Corbin: I'm sorry?
Lisa Guliani: Your GCN archives?
Michael Corbin: Oh yeah. Here's the deal. GCN was never allowed or authorized to sell archives of my show, A Closer Look. I discovered about four months ago, I got an e-mail from a listener who told me they had been listening to an archive from the month of July last year, and they had some questions. They indicated to me they had purchased a DVD from GCN for an entire month of my shows.
Lisa Guliani: What are they selling them for, Michael?
Michael Corbin: The guy told me that they were selling them - I think he said $30 or $40. I don't have the exact amount.
Victor Thorn: How much money did you make off of that?
Michael Corbin: Nothing. Now see, this is why I'm very disappointed in GCN and their behavior because even after I'm gone from the network, they're still making money off of my archives.
Lisa Guliani: So, they've been doing this how many months now?
Michael Corbin: I don't know because I turned this over to my attorney. He is dealing with them. He's sending them a cease-and-desist letter and demanding an accounting of everything they have sold of A Closer Look. The thing is, I find this very, very unprofessional; and it's wrong. I mean, anybody would know that they don't own my show. So they do not own the archives.
Victor Thorn: It sounds completely unethical.
Lisa Guliani: And illegal.
Michael Corbin: It shows what kind of mentality they have if they go cavalierly about selling the archives and not even reporting it to me.
Victor Thorn: Michael, that's what we brought up yesterday. We said, do you think that the mainstream media became this cesspool overnight? Well, it didn't. There were a lot of good people that turned their heads and didn't do anything as we went into this sewer; and we're trying to tell people that if we want to lose the alternative media, if we want it to become the same cesspool, than all we have to do is turn our heads and not say anything either.
Lisa Guliani: Right.
Michael Corbin: Absolutely.
Victor Thorn: It's so important because we don't HAVE anything else. If we lose this alternative media, there IS nothing else.
Michael Corbin: Victor, you're absolutely right. First of all, if we ever hope to succeed at getting the message out and gaining an audience, we have to have our integrity, we have to tell the truth, and we can't act like the people in the mainstream media.
Lisa Guliani: Thank you! Thank you!
Victor Thorn: We want everybody out there watching this show right now to give this guy a standing ovation because this is the kind of attitude we need. Michael, we wish we could keep you here for the next three days.
Lisa Guliani: Yeah, forever.
Victor Thorn: We just want to thank you. Again, everybody go out there to For a Closer Look. Its KHNC 1360 AM. The host is Michael Corbin, and this guy is FANTASTIC.
Lisa Guliani: Our hats are off to you, Michael. We love you.
Michael Corbin: Well, I tell you, same here to you guys because again, what you guys are doing is wonderful, and it's valuable, and it is very needed.
www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html
The Alex Jones Affair
A Christian Patriot Family Betrayed
When one remembers that messy business in Waco involving the Branch Davidians, it's not difficult to think that Texas seems to be particularly in the grip of the Antichrist spirit. At this writing, another family there is also under siege. John Joseph Gray and his wife and kids have been in a stand-off with the authorities since January, 2000. His daughter and grandchildren were being sought for a custody battle as well. As in the Jane Davila case (see Christian Media Volume VI #1), this is simply the Beast encroaching into constitutionally guaranteed rights that are reserved to the individual.
As a patriotic Christian man, John Gray has simply declared enough is enough and has refused to cooperate any further with the Beast system. The conflict stems from yet another attempt by the government to steal the children, because the government thinks they make better parents than children's own parents. This is particularly true for Christians, patriots, home-schoolers, and anyone else that stands up for their God given rights.
This is the shape of things to come. Because the Texas authorities are still smarting from the extensive criticism they received during the Waco murders, in addition to the recent election of Texas favorite son George Bush Jr, thus far the Beast has not moved to take the Grays by force. However, they will most likely make a violent move against them at some point as government consistently tries to give the public the impression that 'resistance is futile.'
What makes the Gray case particularly interesting is how the Patriot community has been deceived concerning what has really occurred there in Trinidad, Texas. The Genesis Communications Network, a so-called "patriot" network, and their premier host Alex Jones, have now been implicated in the betrayal of the Gray family.
In addition to his visibility as a Shortwave/Satellite radio host on the Genesis Communications Network, Alex Jones is best known for his investigative videos that seek to expose various New World Order practices. Alex Jones' broadcast on Genesis is considered the flagship program of the network. Furthermore, Alex Jones is widely seen as one of the top patriot leaders in the American political underground. Likewise, Genesis (also called GCN) enjoys the leadership role in so-called "patriot" broadcasting.
After the Gray siege began, Alex Jones and an associate named Mike Hansen went to the Gray property and asked John Gray if they could videotape an interview. John Gray agreed under one proviso: the tape footage was to be used for a documentary that could only be viewed after the siege was concluded. Alex Jones agreed to these conditions.
It seems that after Jones shot the video he wanted, including footage from within the premises showing crucial defensive locations from within the Gray residence, Alex Jones turned around and sold the video tape to a television network to be aired on the 20/20 news magazine program! Furthermore, it has now been established that Ted Anderson, the head of the Genesis Communications Network, has participated in a cover-up to keep the public from learning the truth about the treachery of his top host!
This incredible betrayal is very similar to that of Judas with his famous kiss. Both betrayals involved monetary compensation for the treachery. In the case of John Gray, the Alex Jones betrayal has placed the lives of the entire Gray household in jeopardy. Remember, the last time the authorities moved against Christians in Texas in a siege situation, they murdered everyone there � including the children.
Because the Gray's revealed significant logistical information to Alex Jones on camera, that information is now in the hands of the Texas authorities because of the unwanted television broadcast.
John Gray sought to get these facts out to the public. Based on his contacts with Genesis, it quickly became clear that Genesis was seeking to cover up the matter. Thinking that Genesis was unaware of the type of treachery Alex Jones had committed, Gray attempted to inform the radio network of what had happened. After several attempts of this nature, John Gray concluded that Ted Anderson, the head of Genesis, directly censored one of his own hosts (John Stadtmiller) that was attempting to tell the Gray story on the air. At that point, Gray was under the impression that Stadtmiller was interested in airing the truth, but he was being censored by Anderson. This was only partially true.
After John Gray realized he had been betrayed by both Alex Jones and the Genesis Network, he wrote a letter to Christian Media's James Lloyd. We have reproduced that letter in its entirety (see John Gray Letter attached to this work).
When I received the letter from John and Alicia Gray, I had already had several interactions with the Genesis people and had become convinced that the organization was completely corrupt and unscrupulous.
It should be noted at this juncture that Alex Jones represents what is usually called 'the franchise' at Genesis. His program is the number one show on the network. Indeed, the entire business plan at GCN has been focused on furthering the listenership of Alex Jones through affiliate AM and FM stations. It's clear GCN has sought to make Alex Jones the next Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh.
The fact that radio figures like Savage (and even the CFR affiliated fraud Rush Limbaugh) have become so popular is because the country has experienced a shift in consensus to a hipper Republican right from the previous liberal left. Thus, GCN clearly hopes to ride that political swing to riches with their golden boy Alex Jones.
Such media 'franchises' are worth millions of dollars - thus any public scrutiny that would expose Alex Jones as a cheap entertainer posing as a patriot would be disastrous for the large investment that Genesis has made in the Austin based broadcaster.
After the Christian Media newspaper printed the story of Alex Jones' betrayal of a patriot Christian family to the mainstream television media, I received an angry phone call from John Stadtmiller. Although John Gray seems to be under the impression that Stadtmiller would have told the truth on the air concerning Alex Jones had it not been for Anderson's censorship, it is clear that John Stadtmiller's sympathies are with Alex Jones.
The veteran "patriot" radio host indicated he would tell me the "truth" of the matter � a version of the "truth" that would presumably discredit John Gray and exonerate Alex Jones' from his role as Judas to John Gray's version of Jesus in the affair. However, Stadtmiller said he would only speak to me concerning the Alex Jones affair "off the record."
This is precisely the sort of back-room tactic that brought Amerika to the desperate straits the country is currently experiencing. Indeed, if the US had a powerful media that was independent of the giant multi-national corporate tentacles of commerce, we would at least have a measure of balance in our present precarious political quagmire. A media 'watchdog' is a good thing as evil is frequently afraid to misbehave for fear of exposure. Thus, the 'smoke-filled room' deals that are made under conditions of secrecy are the antithesis of a fair and balanced media.
It should also be stated that there is probably at least one inaccuracy in the John Gray letter (reproduced at the end of this essay). For example, there are indications the amount of money received by Alex Jones for the videotape he sold of the Gray siege defenses is likely overstated. John Gray can hardly be faulted if this figure is too high (having some familiarity with television, it sounds high to me for file clips purchased on the open market), as the flow of information to him has been severely hampered by the fact that he is barricaded away without regular contact with the outside world. And that's just the point.
On the one side, the Gray family is in a siege position with arrest warrants issued if they come out of their defensive posture. On the other side, Alex Jones and Genesis refuse to comment in any way concerning the matter. Thus, a thorough examination of what really happened is being thwarted to this very day. Because the Grays are simply unable to provide more detail due to their circumstances, and Genesis is after all, a media organization that obviously wants no media attention to the matter, we can't help but conclude that Genesis is seeking to cover-up the truth of the Alex Jones affair.
When John Stadtmiller called me after the story was printed in the Christian Media newspaper and said he would only speak off the record, I was faced with a choice. Because we are sincerely trying to behave in a New Testament fashion, and Jesus Christ has instructed me to "Let your yeas be yeas, and your nays be nays," I refused to speak off the record with John Stadtmiller. He angrily screamed at me and hung up the phone. I'm told by others this is how John concludes a significant number of his telephone conversations.
Of course, one might theorize that John Stadtmiller wanted to 'dish the dirt' about Alex Jones and Genesis without jeopardizing his own position; but then John would have to explain why, as a professing Christian, he continues to maintain such close ties with such a sleazy bunch. After all, the Bible is very clear about being "unequally yoked" with evil.
Or, it could be that John wanted to slander John Gray in some fashion in an effort to whitewash the simple fact that Alex Jones betrayed a patriot Christian family for money. The fact that Stadtmiller has since drawn considerably closer to Alex Jones � even regularly co-hosting programs with him on Genesis � leads me to believe that this phone call was just another effort at damage control, and that the entire organization is one large commercial mouse-trap simply masquerading as patriots in a transparent effort at empire building. Indeed, in virtually every exposure I've had with Alex Jones, the Genesis management, and the network's hosts, I've had the impression that GCN is just a loose coalition of liars that posture as patriots so the public will support their programs
And apparently the listeners are considered fair game. For instance, at least one GCN listener wrote to me stating that GCN (which is backed by a gold and silver brokerage and the Berkey water filter people) had offered a precious metal coin as a premium to anyone that made a specific donation to another "paytriot" broadcaster named Pastor Butch Paugh.
This listener sent in funds, but Ted Anderson (who heads Midas Resources as well as Genesis) refused to honor his own offer! There are several other incidents of this nature that indicate John Gray's expectation that Alex Jones and GCN are actually interested in the truth is unrealistic.
Christian Media has repeatedly sought to expose the treachery at the Genesis Communications Network for several years now. They stole their original equipment from another patriot network named Republic Radio. Fraudulently claiming they had purchased the network, the management of Genesis literally backed up a U-Haul, and loaded up the broadcasting equipment while the rightful owner was out of town!
The victim of this theft was Loris Thompkins, then owner of the now defunct Republic Radio Network. Loris then formed the Heritage Network and promptly sued Genesis for their theft of her assets. In an interesting side note, although the Genesis Network was defended by a high-priced law firm, Loris was helped by certain patriot figures conversant in law as she sued Genesis on a pro-se basis representing herself.
This was because the stolen network represented her entire net worth and she was virtually penniless after being fleeced by Genesis. Ted "Goldfinger" Anderson (the key man at Genesis and gold broker Midas Resources), on the other hand, is said to be a millionaire.
In case anyone is interested, Loris Thompkins has now been proven to be the wronged party. On February 22, 2001, Genesis settled with Loris Thompkins for a significant sum of money. This is the equivalent of a tacit admission of guilt. Incidentally, a complete history of the Genesis Communications Network, including its unsavory origin through theft and deceit, is covered in the book Shortwave Wars (see the catalog at Christianmedianetwork.com). Also, Loris Thompkins periodically addresses the subject on radio as she now broadcasts on The Christian Media Network with a program called To Tell The Truth.
Over the last couple of years, John and Alicia Gray have sent out several handwritten letters updating their status. They have steadfastly stuck by their charges that Alex Jones sold them out to the authorities. Conversely, Alex Jones has steadfastly refused to publicly account for his role in the matter.
Genesis, and every host that has any knowledge of the matter, has uniformly refused to address the issue in any public forum. All callers to any of the various GCN programs that even hint of mentioning the matter are immediately taken off the air and hung up on. The Genesis tactic has been to completely bury the story, and refuse to allow any scrutiny of Alex Jones.
At this point, it should be clear to all informed parties that the trust which has been placed in the Genesis network in general, and Alex Jones in particular, is misplaced. To put it another way, would you want to be in a foxhole with someone who would sell you out for money?
-- James Lloyd
www.alexjonesmachine.com
The Pot Calling the Kettle Black?
Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Jeff Rense & GCN - March/April 2009
No one has to tell you, these are trying times, (are you sick of those two words yet?) we can see it all around us. We are frustrated, we are afraid, we are unsure about the future. Heck, we're even unsure about the present. We don't know who we can trust, we are angry, hurt and tired from being lied to and manipulated. Sometimes the stress of it all can take its toll.
Those who go deeper than what is presented to the "main stream" know this even more acutely than the rest of the "sheeple." If one is not a sheeple, it can be very difficult to find people of like mind when even having a Ron Paul bumper sticker on one's car marks one as a possible terrorist. (BTW, I had 3 on my car, one on my front door and a front yard sign, and even helped paint a whole HOUSE!, so there!, :-P nyah) Which brings me to the point of this piece.
Most, if not all, of you realize the threats to Freedom of Speech these days. The "Hate Bill" going through Congress being the most current glaring example. The right to speak one's opinion is something that can not be given only to a select group of people or individuals. It goes across the board, or it doesn't go at all. If everyone does not have the same right to free thought and opinion, the word "free" can not be applied to the situation.
The ever bashed so-called Main Stream Media is a far cry from the journalism of the past. The MSM deserves pretty much all of the bashing it gets; its offenses are blatant and arrogant. After working in independent media for over a decade, I have learned to expect such behavior and antics from the MSM. They're dogs.
During the months of March and April 2009, I unfortunately realized that the same kind of attitude can be found in the growing independent media world, as well. What I heard, learned, and observed over the months of March and April, and beyond; has saddened and even sickened me at times. Because of this I feel it needs to be noted that what happened with Alex Jones, Ted Anderson, Jeff Rense and GCN smacks of the same kind of manipulative, egotistic and half-truth machinations that might be expected at the level of FOX News. That's a pretty rough statement considering the people we're talking about here are supposed to be about free speech and the rights and sovereignty of the individual.
They claim to be out there supporting the "Patriots", their audiences are growing. They should be supporting each other, as well. Isn't everyone supposed to be on the same side here? Heck y'all go on each other's shows, or you used to. The same guests bounce around the shows, until recently. That's how it should be. Instead, all hell broke loose at GCN resulting in the forced removal of Rense from the GCN network and everyone accusing everybody else of being "agents" and "disruptors." It was nauseating to observe. It still is.
As I watched the situation develop, I could hardly believe my eyes and ears. What went down was the kind of stuff we are all supposed to be fighting AGAINST. To see this level of behind the scenes drama and the resulting disruption to the programs and hosts and listeners involved made me question whether it is possible for a true journalist to even survive on this planet anymore.
I guess we'll find out after this, eh?
I will pre-empt here and say no, Alex, and Ted, this is NOT part of "an obvious campaign to try to get the patriot movement to turn on itself" by writing this. I am not "attacking" anyone or trying to shut anyone up. I am telling the truth about how I watched the movement turn on itself, all by itself, with YOUR effort, and support. I am not trying to "silence" or "destroy" anyone. I am holding people accountable for their actions.
I want you to walk your talk, damn it, all of you.
If you say that looking at one's "fruits" is a measure of a man, I'm here to tell you, I see some major spoilage going on. If you expect people to listen to you with trust and respect, you have to behave in a manner that is worthy of those things; especially if you are going to take their money.
None of you, not a one, is as big or important as you seem to think you are. You are just like the rest of us, fighting in our own ways.
These are turning out to be the hardest pages I have ever done. I am so angry and frustrated. Not because I am afraid of becoming a "target" or afraid that I am going to be sued, but because I am so fed up with all the crap. I'm not afraid of any of this stuff. These are just people, just like you. Because they are on the radio and/or TV does not change that, it does not give them super powers, they are not magic.
So bear with me; or don't, and go click on something else.
And YES, it is without a doubt loooooong and to comments about that, I say tough!
You can't sound-byte this stuff, and this one has hit real close to home for me, too, so I'm telling it the way I see it, on MY site.
It's called Freedom of Speech, look it up if you can't remember what it means anymore.
OK, let's get to it. It's going to be a very bumpy ride, let's just do our best to get to the other side, in one peace.
Let's continue...
Are YOU An Agent?
I'm going to go out on a limb here; pretty far out there on a very small thin branch, actually. Sometimes we have to, because we're fed up, and it's the right thing to do. Put yourself in my shoes as you read this. Would you be a little nervous? You betcha. (My site was already hacked once.)
Regardless, I am going out there with the truth as best as I can determine it to be with the information available to me. I am going out there with personal responsibility and courage; and I'm taking you with me. Let's hope we don't all fall down.
I try to walk my talk.
Alex Jones and Jeff Rense. You know the names; if you don't you can probably just leave now, because this won't interest you. (BTW, the majority of people in this country don't know who EITHER of them are. Test it, go stop 20 people out on the street, I'll bet you get NO ONE that knows who they are, unless you are in Austin, TX. Get some perspective.)
On the surface, it looks like they are both trying to fight the good fight. Heaven knows we need that. However, there seems to be a lot of buzz that there is more going on here than meets the eye, and since we can't get into either of their heads, we don't know what that could be. We can only look at what we see and hear and read about it and decide for ourselves, just like everything else.
I have done that, this is my opinion. I am entitled to my own opinion. This is MY site. I can post what I want on it. I back up what I post, so if you want to sue me over it, knock yourself out, you won't have a case, and you won't get any money, I'm always broke.
I don't care who agrees or disagrees. I know who I am, and what I believe, and how I got there. I will always be able to show you how I got there, too.
I'll even show you my birth certificate. That's way more than your President is willing to do for you.
By now, the story of Alex Jones and Jeff Rense has made the rounds. I will state here that I am a subscriber on both Rense Radio and Prison Planet.tv. At least as I'm typing this... that will change soon.
I listen to Alex most days at work for the last year and a half; until the last few weeks. I only listened sporadically before that. I have my own space, I don't hear start to finish stuff; I'm working and not always in the room. But, I hear enough to keep up.
I listen to Jeff most nights, if the guest is someone I want to hear, and I don't fall asleep. Or, I'll listen the next day at work, or some other archives.
That was my pattern anyway...until the last couple months.
I am going to throw in my two cents, because I was the person who got them together in the first place, and this whole thing that has transpired just breaks my heart on so many levels. I don't have the emails anymore to verify a date, but both of them remember. That's good enough for me.
A Little Background
Crap - We All Get It
I have been doing my work for over 12 years on the net. Until the issue regarding illegal atmospheric aerosol operations, commonly known by the catch-all word chemtrails; I just posted on my site, nothing of great importance, just things in which I was interested. Then, chemtrails came into my life.
Because I realized it was such an important issue, I began to be active in the investigating and reporting of it. Along with another person, I became one of the original founders/moderators of Chem Trail Tracking USA, the Yahoo group.
At the time, if one did a search for the word "chemtrails"; one only got 3/three results. Now, if you search Google for the word chemtrails - 1,290,000 results come back. I think that shows progress. Even though the programs are still officially denied, they remain active... just look up.
The reason I bring this up is because after about 3 months into the CTTUSA group activity, I began to get threats and insults and all kinds of ad hominem attacks. I have a "threat" file folder. It has hard copies of many of the things that have been thrown at me over the years.
A good example would be emails with pictures of cut off and mutilated human hands and arms that were sent to me with a warning that if I didn't stop my work, that was what was going to happen to me. As you can see, I still have both of my hands and arms, and I have no intention of stopping anytime soon.
Anyone working on any of these so called "conspiracy theory" issues gets talked smack to. Emails, postings on boards and blogs, websites, wherever. In the early days it got to me because I just wasn't used to having to read and deal with such vitrol and flat out cruel stuff. I'm a nice person, people don't usually talk to me in that manner. I tried to defend myself a few times, but it wasn't worth the effort. I don't need the distraction and the negative energy is not conducive to productivity.
It still goes on, I suppose, but I don't read it or pay attention to it. I can show you an example at the bottom of this article that was posted about me recently, a comment I guess because of the "letter" pages.
The post, of course, is filled with innaccuracies. Apparently, this person has not gotten over being banned for bad behavior almost 10 years ago. Looks like he hasn't learned much in 10 yrs. Some people are just like that, and they will not change. Sucks to be them.
Over the years I have gotten death threats, insults to myself and my family. I have had my bank account wiped out after writing an open letter to the Dept. of Homeland Security. I have had my phone lines messed with so bad the phone company couldn't find them. I have been called tons of names, my mental health has been questioned, and I have had accusations that I wear "jackboots" or that I am an "agent" (which just cracks up my next door neighbor).
I am not an agent, I am a 55 year old single mother of three, grandmother of four, that works at a grocery store. "Agent" is not on my resume, nor a part of my life in any way, unless you choose to call me an agent for peace. I will accept that title, because it is true.
If I have learned anything about activism on the net - I have learned that this crap just comes with the territory. It happens to more people than you know.
If you aren't getting death threats, insults, or being accused of being an agent, nobody's listening, apparently. I pretty much ignore them and don't talk about them.
I sure don't use them as excuses to behave badly.
I, as well as others with whom I work, actually use the level of harassment to guage the importance of the topic being discussed. It seems when we strike a chord, we're on the right track.
The louder the protest and negative reaction to our efforts, the greater the indicator that we have hit upon something of importance.
Doing what myself and others of like mind do, makes one open to such irritating and downright disgusting actions from others; usually hiding behind a nickname with no verifiable real person behind it.
And then of course, there's the nutty ones.
Like my grandfather used to say, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." Apparently, I live a lot of my life in the kitchen. I'm OK with that - that's where the food is.
I think I can stand the heat. I have so far. We'll see.
People react differently when in the kitchen. Some days are better than others. Lately, I have watched people in the kitchen with me behave very, very badly.
Let's get back to business. One entity at a time...we continue...
In The Beginning...Jeff Rense
To the best of my knowledge, neither Jeff Rense nor myself are "agents." I, of course, could be wrong; I don't know everything. To back myself up about what I do know, I am sharing my own personal experiences with these men and the issue at hand.
The picture you see above was taken and sent to Jeff during the program, the very first time Alex came on Jeff's show. It was sometime in 2003. I can't confirm the date, the archives don't go back that far, at present. As you can see, I was very excited about the collaboration. I have Jeff's book AIDS Exposed and my copy of 911 Descent into Tyranny and I was wearing the Tyranny Response Team shirt. I was very happy then, can you tell?
Now? Not so much. I am very unhappy about how it has all turned out lately, and with all the garbage I have been reading and hearing. There needs to be some clarification, for all of us. So here goes.
As I said, I was the one that hooked up Jeff Rense and Alex Jones.
There doesn't seem to be a good and accurate bio of Jeff out there. I found one here; but it is not right. Reading it I would do so with the note that if the ADL says you shouldn't read/listen/see something, you should probably read/listen/see it. Then, make up your own mind. One error in that bio that I can see right off the bat is the original show name was "The End of the Line", Sightings was second.
Since there appears to be a need for a bio, I contacted Jeff. He told me he and his brother, Rip have tried on more than one occasion to submit one on Wikipedia, but they keep getting removed. So, I told him if he sent me one, I'd post it, so he did, and I am. Here is an authorized bio of Jeff Rense.
"Jeff Rense is a renowned, highly-respected American broadcast journalist and host of the legendary Jeff Rense Program now in its 15th year and broadcast worldwide on the internet and also available on the Ku band satellite Galaxy 19. His program is syndicated over the Rense Radio Network (RenseRadio.com) which is also home to an enormous library of his archived programs.
Rense's radio program and phenomenally successful website, Rense.com, cover a vast subject and topic panorama including: in-depth geopolitical conspiracy research, Zionism and secret societies, our Constitutional rights and liberties, UFO sightings and reports, paranormal phenomena, emerging diseases and pandemic threats, GMO and toxic food, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, evidence of advanced ancient technology, political intrigue, energy technologies, and health and alternative medicine and a multitude of other important and often eclectic, controversial subjects. Many of those topics Alex Jones does not even address.
The Jeff Rense Program is completely unique and original in its content and style, and his guests and web site material are routinely picked up by other talk shows and sites which seek to reveal the truth to the world at large. Rense grew up in Santa Barbara and began his media career in television news, spending 12 years as an award-winning news anchor and news director with network affiliate stations in CA, NV, OR and WA. He walked away from tv news when he realized it was no longer journalism but simply entertainment and propaganda.
Rense began his radio program in 1994 when his The End Of The Line debuted on Santa Barbara's top talk station. A year later, he was signed to a 5 year contract by the Premiere Radio Networks and nationally-syndicated. Between his 24 hour Rense.com worldwide news service and his M-F 3-hour talk program, Rense has rightly been called 'An American Treasure' by top journalists and fans alike. He loves nature and the outdoors and is one of the world's leading authorities on the music and life of tenor Mario Lanza and he hosts an elaborate Lanza website, mariolanza.net. In 2007, Rense released 3 CDs of rare Lanza recordings which he painstakingly remastered and produced."
I first met Jeff Rense via email, the program/web site was Sightings. I sent him an email requesting his permission to link to a news story on his website. I had just started building my own website, I was a big newbie, very green on the net. Jeff wrote back, I wrote back, and that has continued since 1997 or so.
I have never worked FOR him, I have always worked WITH him.
I have been to his home, I have met his family. I can attest to his time spent on his site and program. I have seen him plant his trees. I even went to Wal-Mart with him. (Gasp!)
I know well of his passionate interest in anything Mario Lanza because I have also shared in that. Transcribing old movie magazine articles and looking for memorabilia is a LOT more fun for both of us than the things on which either of us spend most of our time these days, believe me. We don't do much of either of the fun things anymore like we used to. Although somehow Jeff managed to crank out 3/three more Mario CDs. The guy doesn't sleep much.
Anyway, I think I have a pretty good sense of what Jeff is about and how he goes about it. His professional news background, and his dedication to free speech and freedom of inquiry are the reasons that he has had such a large audience for so many years.
He has spent 15 years on the radio, always struggling for bandwidth, just like everyone else. He does his own work to fight TPTB and allows people to make up their own minds about what is going on around them. He gets his share of harassment, big time; but you don't hear him whining about it all the time. When necessary, he addresses the issue like in the case of WINGS.
It is a core group of Jeff, James Neff the webmaster extraordinaire, and a few others for technical purposes and administration that runs Rense.com/radio. Jeff lists their names at the bottom of his home page.
There is no staff of twenty, or something. No one is rolling in dough. There are no rented office spaces. Everyone works their butts off with little or no financial compensation. Not enough for the value of their efforts, that's for sure.
I adore the Neffs. James has incredible talent, works ungodly hours, and their family is great. My sons love them too.
Jeff covers a WIDE range of topics and a WIDE range of opinions. Anyone who says he is anti-semitic hasn't been listening and is obviously ill informed on the topic of Zionsim vs Judaism. His subjects are not just political intrigue, he is greatly concerned with health issues, as well. And of course, UFO's and other paranormal topics are presented, which is one of the things that makes Rense a good journalist. Free-flow of information, remember?
Rense respects people's intelligence enough to know that they can decide for themselves what is true, or not. He presents information. He states his own opinion on his own radio show.
JEFF doesn't believe everything that is reported on the site, that's not his job. Presenting the facts is his job. He posts links to stories he feels are important in the headlines column on his own site.
Over the years, many of those headlines and some stories have been submitted by me. I, for one, don't send him unverifiable crap. I have appreciated his venue and support his work. He is entitled to edit his own site and voice his own views on it, as are any of you in your own venues. As the old saying goes, "Take what works, and leave the rest."
People that complain about the stories on the site just don't get what real news is supposed to be about. I am sick and tired of hearing how some story that was merely linked to a story posted on another site was "posted on Rense's site." Bull! Check the link address! Unless the URL has "rense.com" in it, it's NOT on HIS site.
Next comes...Alex Jones
I heard of Alex Jones long before I met him. As I can best recall, the first time I heard of Alex was in connection to a story about the poisoned Treaty Oak in Austin, TX. I then checked some more and found that he was working on getting information out about the control factors around us that are threatening our freedom. I thought that was great. There is an Alex Jones approved bio here.
Although I was having fun at the time, when Alex got to the "Join me, and I will complete your training" part, I remember thinking to myself, "Huh? Does this guy realize Jeff's background? How many years he worked in network news before anything took place on the net?" I realized Alex was doing his "Star Wars" thing, but geez.
I certainly have never known Alex nearly as well as I know Jeff. I have never listened to Jones as frequently as Rense, the style differences and topic variety of the two programs being the main reasons. I also wasn't available to listen to Alex much except when I worked weekends, back then. The few times I tried to email Alex, after I met him, I didn't get a reply. I don't read or post on any related boards.
So...within a few months of checking out Alex, I started suggesting to Jeff that he have him on, and he finally did. He didn't just jump on it, but he eventually had him on when he needed to get a slot filed. The first show went well, you can hear it in the Rense archives, probably, when the 2003 archives get in there.
Jeff then began to have Alex on as a monthly guest, at least; NOT just somebody he contacted a few times for interviews. Alex had his own regular day and week that he appeared on Rense. It was Mondays for a while, if I recall correctly, and Thursdays for a while. The shows are in the Rense archives. It is easy enough to verify that this statement is true.
Alex, in your on-air statement regarding this situation (I suppose this will get ME sued now) between you and Jeff, you described your relationship as "a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times" I suppose that is technically true, but an obvious understatement. You also said that Jeff "asked to do a show on Genesis, I said 'Fine'." That can not be true Alex, I know Ted Anderson called Jeff about him being on GCN. In fact, Jeff did not have Alex on as a guest until AFTER Jeff was already broadcasting on Genesis. Jeff never asked to be on the GCN network, he was approached by Ted Anderson and they made an agreement. Is Alex confused over who runs GCN?
If anything, Alex's appearances on Rense gave Jones exposure to a larger audience that would not have heard of him otherwise. It wasn't like Jeff called Alex a bunch asking him to be on...he developed into a regular guest, for all intents and purposes. This means Rense had confidence in Alex's information and dependability, at the time..
Although I was having fun at the time, when Alex got to the "Join me, and I will complete your training" part, I remember thinking to myself, "Huh? Does this guy realize Jeff's background? How many years he worked in network news before anything took place on the net?" I realized Alex was doing his "Star Wars" thing, but geez.
I certainly have never known Alex nearly as well as I know Jeff. I have never listened to Jones as frequently as Rense, the style differences and topic variety of the two programs being the main reasons. I also wasn't available to listen to Alex much except when I worked weekends, back then. The few times I tried to email Alex, after I met him, I didn't get a reply. I don't read or post on any related boards.
So...within a few months of checking out Alex, I started suggesting to Jeff that he have him on, and he finally did. He didn't just jump on it, but he eventually had him on when he needed to get a slot filed. The first show went well, you can hear it in the Rense archives, probably, when the 2003 archives get in there.
Jeff then began to have Alex on as a monthly guest, at least; NOT just somebody he contacted a few times for interviews. Alex had his own regular day and week that he appeared on Rense. It was Mondays for a while, if I recall correctly, and Thursdays for a while. The shows are in the Rense archives. It is easy enough to verify that this statement is true.
Alex, in your on-air statement regarding this situation (I suppose this will get ME sued now) between you and Jeff, you described your relationship as "a radio talk show host who contacted me and interviewed me several times" I suppose that is technically true, but an obvious understatement. You also said that Jeff "asked to do a show on Genesis, I said 'Fine'." That can not be true Alex, I know Ted Anderson called Jeff about him being on GCN. In fact, Jeff did not have Alex on as a guest until AFTER Jeff was already broadcasting on Genesis. Jeff never asked to be on the GCN network, he was approached by Ted Anderson and they made an agreement. Is Alex confused over who runs GCN?
If anything, Alex's appearances on Rense gave Jones exposure to a larger audience that would not have heard of him otherwise. It wasn't like Jeff called Alex a bunch asking him to be on...he developed into a regular guest, for all intents and purposes. This means Rense had confidence in Alex's information and dependability, at the time..
In 2007, I noticed that Alex's appearances were more sporadic, and a few times he was listed as a guest; but then there was no Alex when the show started. I didn't think much about it, at the time. I didn't ask Jeff about it. Alex was gaining in popularity, he had all those videos coming out and such, I figured he was busy doing his own thing.
I found out later that Alex had more than once been a no-call no-show, as we say at work when we miss a shift. We get "written up" for doing that.
Alex's show and site and the way he does things is vastly different from Rense. Jeff's show is more guest and content focused. He interviews people, lets them state their information and opinion, and throws in his own when he has something to contribute. He doesn't take call-ins, hardly ever. It's not a "talk-show" in that respect. He doesn't get all shouty and over emotional. He was a TV news anchor for over a decade before he started the radio gig. You don't generally see/hear newscasters present the news like a televangelist. I have never really heard him raise his voice on the show, on the telephone, or in person; no matter what was happening at the moment. There was one exception, he did shout at his bird to be quiet once. He has most definitely typed in all caps to me, on more than one occasion. When he is very angry, his magnificent vocabulary makes up for any unneccesary increase in volume. He doesn't shout and cuss and such, in my experience. That's just not the kind of guy he is. He is generally a gentleman. I think most of his guests and listeners would agree with that statement.
Don't get me wrong, we have had our moments over the years. I know he's irritated if he calls me "Missy". And there was the one time about 5 or 6 years ago when we got in a fight and didn't speak to each other for something like 8-10 months. But we got over it. I don't even remember what it was about any more.
That is how Jeff usually deals with things. If he finds sufficient reason to end a relationship, the person will be notified of his position - and then no contact will come after that. Out of sight, out of mind. HE attempted to do that regarding the Jones 'situation' with his statement. Jeff then directs his attention to other things.
He is more of a pessimist than I am, he would say realist. We can agree to disagree without bloodshed, most of the time.
Although he deals with some very frightening issues, no doubt (we are in very frightening times); his program is not overall fear based, IMO. Brad Steiger wouldn't be on otherwise. (shrug)
Alex seems to have gotten more and more excitable over the years. It's getting harder and harder to listen to his "trasmissions". Alex gets way more emotional than Rense. Jones is very theatrical. The big booming voice stuff, the Star Wars influences. The bull horn thing, heavily sensationalized product. Like when Will Thomas coined "Deep Sky" for the air traffic controller in the Boston area. We don't need to sensationalize this stuff folks, it's sensational all on it's own.
As Alex got louder, I started listening less. It feels like watching Jerry Springer, all the negativity and shouting and name calling. I can't refer many of my neighbors to listen to Alex because his hystrionics would be so off putting to them, they would not be open to anything further I would suggest they examine. It is not necessary to whip people into a frenzy by shouting, nor is it necessary to call people who disagree "morons" and the like. That's Major Asshole behavior, in my opinion.
I have done enough live radio to know how bad it sucks when a guest doesn't show up, or there are technical difficulties in the broadcast. The most I have ever been stiffed in that respect was 30 minutes and that was hell. I can't imagine having to deal with the "loss" of hours and having to pull up something dated to put on in place of the original content. When one is doing live radio and the planned content doesn't happen, it is VERY hard to fill in that time and make it work, sometimes even if it's just a few minutes. These actions by Alex came to a head in November of 2007, and Alex was never a guest on Rense after that. Jeff was angry, I am sure, I would be too if it had happened to me.
